Comments on: Do religious people understand the difference between absolute truth and that which evidence supports?

By: jt

jt — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 03:37:22 +0000

Your first paragraph from “Rational people look…” to the end of that paragraph; I agree. Your second paragraph, I somewhat agree.
I have done extensive research on absolutes. There are very few absolutes, in science. In theism, there are no limits, to absolutes. And, in philosophy, it is the ultimate basis of all thought, reasoning, or being. I have concluded, that is either true or untrue. Nothing more, nothing less. Hopefully, this is what you may be referring to.

By: ?????? ?????

?????? ????? — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:12:17 +0000

For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not know him, God was pleased through the foolishness of what was preached to save those who believe.(1 Corinthians 1:21 NIV)

Do you understand what God teaches?

The wisdom of the world has nothing to do with the wisdom of God. Otherwise, man would be able to understand the wisdom of God through the wisdom of the world. As it is, the message of the cross seems foolish to the worldly wise.

Those who believe in the message of the cross will be saved, but those to whom the message seems foolish, will not be saved.

God our Savior…wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.(see 1 Timothy 2:3,4)

By: WHY

WHY — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:48:01 +0000

Why do you ‘lump’ all religious people together as if they were not individuals that may be part of different sub-groups of differerent religions, and perhaps even believing in different gods or having different world views or different beliefs about the nature of reality or of truth? Why does it appear that you assume that they were all indoctrinated as childen or that many are not also rational thinkers?
This is not to disagree with some of your statements or your general argument, but an effort to help you to make better or more rational arguments in the future and to help you avoid appearing as if you had the absolute truth and those who disagree with you believe in falsehoods.. Look at your last few sentences and see how you might re-word them, so as to be less prejudiced, close-minded, and irrational.

By: JEANNIE

JEANNIE — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:17:30 +0000

I have a “higher” IQ – I consider myself strong in my faith! If you wish to carry this debate, they are no absolute truths. There is always room for interpretation and correction. Religion is not about just a written word but about an inner search for meaning and peace.
I happen to be Christian and within my “family” we have Dr’s, RN’s, PHD’s and more. I don’t think we have a “problem” with understanding intellectual pursuits. I think the pure intellectual has a problem with understanding faith! It takes a greater mind to acknowledge that which can not be tabulated or recreated.

By: Annie

Annie — Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:02:58 +0000

rofl….. who are you trying convince ?? You are others ? sure use lots of big words to say such a *simple * thing….. rofl….. Talk about straw man arguments and grasping at straws !!! You have gotten real good at it……. go in peace….. God bless

By: ryaninaustinTX

ryaninaustinTX — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:45:01 +0000

I totally agree. I grew up in the church and the bible was always referred to as the Truth. (note the capital T) They really referred to anything that was interpreted as god’s word as ‘the Truth,’ whether god said it or not.

I think anytime things are considered either black or white, extreme left or extreme right, information gets ignored. That’s devastating to the process of learning and growth.

I can accept that there is sometimes only one truth, but I always consider that no one knows definitely what that truth happens to be – at least I don’t know.

The idea of god is the end-all. You can’t question god and have faith, therefore god is the Truth in the eyes of believers or else they become non-believers.

“If you could rationalize with religious people, there would be no religious people.”
~ House M.D.

By: freedom thinker

freedom thinker — Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:09:37 +0000

All and I mean all religions know the truth they just do not accept it, so religious ignorants continues on feeding billions of dollars yearly into it, simply unbelievable.

By: Your Friendly Jewish Accountant

Your Friendly Jewish Accountant — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 09:10:20 +0000

I’m sorry, did you say something? I couldn’t understand you w/ all that $h!+ coming out of your mouth…

By: Jennifer M

Jennifer M — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:18:57 +0000

I think you’re absolutely right. About everything you said.

By: Galaxie Girl

Galaxie Girl — Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:36:07 +0000

Honestly, I think there are a lot of people on both sides (theist and non-theist) who don’t realize that. There are lots of atheists, for example, who don’t question the existence of people like Aristotle, Julius Caesar, and Columbus, yet they (not all, but some) have what seems like an irrational denial about even the possibility that Jesus existed. So it’s not just (some) religious people who don’t understand the difference – there are quite a few atheists as well.

Btw, your line about being brainwashed as children does not account for people who were atheists/agnostics and became religious as adults.